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personally i think that there is unnecessary to pursue the so-called accuracy of grammar if the two of guys can communicate fluently with each other.but as a beginner,we still need to learn from the foundation.show me your piont.....
It is an excellent subject Billy.
Americans do not learn Grammar in order to learn to speak, and they understand each other quite well.
Grammar can be studied for the sake of knowledge, but in my opinion, it can become a barrier to learning.
I see a lot of such barriers to learning with Chinese students in particular, who have impressed upon them that English consists a lot of complex rules, which are almost as difficult as learning to write the Chinese Characters
Thus they suppose that every word, every phrase, every oddball idiomatic saying is governed by some sort of a Rule which must be memorized.
It is not a good way to learn English, but when so many are convinced that they have alread received good instruction, it is most difficult them to simply relax and learn to speak in fun and casual way.
It is difficult to persuade such students that, as you say, when people can understand each other, it is quite sufficient.
A fish trap is used in order to catch fish. Once the fish are caught the trap is forgotten. A rabbit trap is used in order to catch rabbits. Once the rabbit is caught the trap is forgotten. Words are used in order to capture thoughts. Once the thoughts are captured the words are forgotten. I'd be so at ease if I could find someone who had forgotten words so I could have a conversation with him!
From Taoist book, Zhuang Zi.
u have the right to choose to be . no one can force you
I think learning grammer first is wronge. I like the baby way of learning . First learn how to speak then writing then grammer
I also appreciate the baby's way of learning.
As I have a kid, and I see how 'easy' for him to learn Chinese and English.
We don't have to teach him to speak, he could speak Chinese some day.
I didn't teach him any English word, I just played an English song one time everyday, and he could sing the song in English after a week, and he was two years old.
I thought it's amazing.
He could sing many English songs but he couldn't or wouldn't speak English.
He only speaks a few English words that I often say to him, such as: thank you, sorry, go...
Now I come to understand why, that's because of listening!
Before he could speak some Chinese words, he had listened to us for a whole year.
Before he could speak some simple sentences, he had listened to us for 2 years.
What's more, we use it everyday to communicate, my boy learn to read fast, cause he found it's useful.
He hates to learn English, cause he found it's useless. Nobody around him speak English.
If u'r in an English-speaking enviromet, I think you could speak English without learning grammar.
But as an adult, who can only speak English online, grammar is necessary.
Otherwise, you have to memorize sentence by sentence.
I have learned English since I was 6, it's been more than 20 years, but I still couldn't chat with foreigners fluently.
And I could never speak to anyone in English over the 20 years, only online.
I always believe, if I could live in an English-speaking country for a year or a half-year, I could really speak English.