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My philosophy :
I believe one must embraces the culture of the country before starting to learn it's language.
Once the culture is fully accepted, the road to learning can and will be facinating trip.
What is your philosophy on learning languages?
Egg first? Chicken first?
I think learning language is the best way of understanding culture.
I learn foreign languages because of the attractive image of the language itself as well as of the people (the nation of the language) with their history, their land and their life and their achievements. Besides, these efforts give more benefits to me not only for self-development and job but also to be able to understand some other cultures in the world. That is humbly mine of not so philosophical one.
I think we should know other cultures through languages. Although we have native books to introduce other cultures but that is different from my experience. I am still afraid of trusting it.
I think it should keep the faith good will to have conversation with foreigners.
And should have courage. I just fail to video chat with an American.
I think I shall practice oral from now on but I think it is better to start from local foreigners.
And I like to speak something without logic that is not about language
So I think I should wait for being ready,
At least, dont feel burden
Thank you for contributing to the discusion, I read what you all wrote and I would like to add few things:
Ayad: I would like to believe that most people here on Italki are learning a language not because they are forced to do it, but becaue personal interest.
However, I do agree with you that at least I can't embrace ALL cultures, especially me.
As we may have inner conflict with the tradition or the representation of politic or religion system of that the particular country and culture.
It was irrelevant to name other countries in this discussion !! I speak for myself only: I believe it will be hard for me to learn a language if there were resentment to it's culture!!
If we have to bring out only negative in each country we will all be dumbfounded!
Hilmy said it: "History, Achievement"... and so on, and simply the likes to the people of the culture involved. Each and every country have positives and negatives, I choose to look at the positives!!
In another words, the facination of the culture has to be there, for me and I am almost sure that this will be the case many others. (Not all but many others).
Italki provide the chance not only to learn the language but to mingle with the people of the country involved and learn more about the culture while learning the language.
Wish you all to have a wonderful week-end!
I agree with you somewhat, because I think one of the reasons I love Japanese is because of the culture. Japanese culture is really interesting and polite, and there are some things about the culture you have to understand before learning the language. In my German class at school, while my teacher acknowledges that knowing about German culture is not a state education requirement, she likes to teach us about Germany because she feels it's important and will help us learn the language better, if that makes any sense.
I don't really think "THIS IS THE ONLY RIGHT WAY TO LEARN A LANGUAGE" because it's kind of different for everyone. Some people learn better taking classes, and other people learn better on their own, or by being immersed in an environment where the language is being spoken.
While I do agree with your German teacher, I also agree with what you have said, as it does make sense.
You said: "it's kind of different for everyone. Some people learn better taking classes, and other people learn better on their own, or by being immersed in an environment where the language is being spoken."
I totally agree with your saying that it is different for everyone.
I speak for myself and I believe that had I lived in Japan 3 months minimum would have speed my Japanese learing. Class is good too, depending on the teacher. Learning alone isn't the same. I think it is harder.
Havea wonderfull day,
I personally can't accept everything in the other culture. Should I? I don't think so.
In any culture I meet some thing I like them and some I'd prefer to forget about them :) The first ones encourage me to learn this language, to remember about the second ones will be a barrier.
Of course I'm still aware of them, but i don't put it on the foreground. I focus on the favourite things only. For example - what will encourage you to learn German - Hitler or Shopenhauer, Italian - fascism or Renaissance, and so on for any language.
P.S. Politics sucks in any culture :))
I think you have a good fundamental understanding as to what facilitates understanding of a language.
The learning process advances quickly, when a cultural knowledge is implemented.
Otherwise, learning language is entirely an abstraction.
Your awareness of the cultural element should facilitate a rapid learning sequence.
Wish you all the best !
From Australia, Good morning to you :)
Thank you for your contribution to the discussion, Serg, Bruce and Kamenko.
Of course I know of some wrong doing by a certain country.. but if we only "concentrate" on the wrong doing, we will never advance. Sometimes it is best to see the positive, in this I place my concentration.
Italy has so much to offer in so many ways, I remind myself that niether nor Germany or Japan nation should be held responsible to it's Government actions. As the mass of the people may not have known, and if they could change it they would have.. But not much can be done to change the past. It is there for us to remember what we should leave behind and never again agree to discriminate on the base of either religion or culture.
Thank you all for your honest contribution to the discussion.
I find that concentrating on the good things any culture offer us, works for me. Bruce said:
"The learning process advances quickly, when a cultural knowledge is implemented.
Otherwise, learning language is entirely an abstraction".