Craig Mansfield
Women's hairy legs. Do women keep the hair on their legs, in any part of the world? I'm very big on equality, so I've given various subjects a lot of thought. In the west, male advertisers, "marketeers" have changed women from being individuals, in to being "things" that men might desire. I read that the "need" for women to shave their body hair, began around 1915, with marketing campaigns for a product that "soothed shaved skin". (It wouldn't need soothing if you left it alone). The pressure for women to shave their legs came sometime around the 1920s, and apparently was inspired by the U.S. pin-up girl, Betty Grable. Along with make-up, which to me is insulting before you even leave the term (to make up, means to either make friends again after a fight, or to have something be complete again, "give me £9.00 and I'll get the £1.00 from you next week, that'll make up the £10.00 that I loaned you". Ironically "make up" also mean invent, "what should I tell him?" "I don't know just make something up".) So I think the whole thing throws women off balance, psychologically. It definitely makes women less equal and more like acquisitions for men. It makes women doubt themselves and it places their mind in the "I hope I look my best, so people will accept me" range, instead of the, "never you mind what I look like, listen to me because I know what I'm talking about", range. Pubic hair (shockwave gets sent across the earth like a giant tsunami). Pubic hair in men and especially women, wasn't shaved until at least the '80s. There is a theory that men want women to look pre-pubescent, suggesting health, youthfulness, and probably virginity. (Another western sociological issue, where men want to own women, "nobody else can have her, only me"). So what is a woman with hairy legs and no make-up? Apart from natural as "God" intended? Aside from a social reject, she is what she was supposed to be, before men decided to destroy her mind and her self confidence, and strip her of all of her equality. Imagine a world where men have to shave their legs, and wear colours on their face and the women don't. Or any other animal where you shave it's legs because it's of the female gender. I also would think that it would be strange to have a girlfriend with hairy legs, but I'm a product of my society, too. It does seem irrational though, when you think about it. Fashion through the ages, has always looked weird when you look back on it. We have trends and fashions, now. :/
Jan 30, 2013 12:30 PM
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What about women's hairy faces Craig. :)

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February 16, 2013
It's fine with me for anyone to disagree, actually it's better because it creates the debate. 4 years ago, I realised that my brain had separated women and men, it was one of the root causes of a lot of unhappiness and trouble in my life. My mind and general life have improved ever since I have looked in to how I used to think, and how other people think and behave. Any personal choice is just that, but an enforced action by fear of ridicule, is something else and that's interesting to me. There is the point that any one person regardless of gender, who does something unique, will stand out and (certainly in Newcastle) be ridiculed. I'm not trying to be magnanimous (or hope to increase my point's plausibility by using the word "magnanimous" hehe) but perhaps there are elements of everyone's points in society. Advertising pressure, peer pressure, psychological warfare, the status quo, self hatred, inequality, personal choice. Thanks for your input :)
February 10, 2013
This is an interesting thread, Craig, despite the fact that I disagree with most of the points you make. The bottom line is that male and females of the human species, throughout history, and in all cultures and times, have gone to great lengths to hone their appearance both to conform with societal values and to enhance their standing with the opposite sex. And it's not only in humans that this can be seen, it can be observed in practically every other mammal species as well. Interestingly, my wife is Chinese, and whilst she doesn't really have hairy legs, she still shaves them. And while we're at it, she shaves other parts of her body too, but that's not because I want her to, rather it's because SHE wants to! Some women just prefer the feeling of being clean shaven.
February 10, 2013
Great points, well made. It obviously must be from a variety of sources, and it needs both genders' compliance for it to work. Men have not always had the power in all cultures, even when they look like they have (Japan). China had a bizarre "sign of beauty" when they bound children's feet, to keep them tiny. Amazonian women were the warriors, not the men. It's very interesting to think about the difference between what is seen to be attractive, and what is attractive to men (in general). Nature made humans, so in the short evolutionary period of a few hundreds years, no-one can tell me that as animals, men have been attracted to thin women, then a few decades later to larger women. I think the truth is, and always has been, that most men find a lot of different types of women to be attractive, and the women they choose (out of the people who say yes) at any given period of time, are the ones which their friends will admire them for being with. So in the Twiggy days, if you had a skinny girlfriend, you may have looked trendy, in these times, you need a Latin woman with a big bum (my weakness I have to admit). Could women be the instigators of a fashion trend? Yes I think so, even if it's painful to wear, look at high heels, killers but they "look good". Zoom out from the immediate conversational point of view, and put us humans on a par with any other animal on earth, and see what we do to ensure that we carry on our bloodline. We're quite the amusing species :D painting our faces, choosing colours and hairstyles, getting drunk to fit in, suffering things we hate to have what we want, the rhetoric, conditions, dancing (I mean breakdancing, and we think that peacocks are amazing), and now we've gone from trying to get someone that we want, to "not being satisfied" within a relationship :D I'm retired, no more love for me thanks :D
February 9, 2013
It's a great conversation though and surely a volatile one. Hopefully more people will start to take beauty requirements with a grain of salt and not the 'either-or' mentality.
February 9, 2013
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