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So in my Rosetta Stone lesson, I have been learning the counting of object for awhile, but I didn't get that the "mai", "ko", "pon", etc... at the end of the number referred to something of the objects (I am thinking it's the way they are placed, like next to, on top of, etc...), now my question is, is it nessiccery to include that last ted-bit in the statement? couldn't I just say "yonjuu no osara"? or do I need to say "yonjuumai no osara"?

For learning: Japanese
Base language: English
Category: Language

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    The so called "counting words" refer to the shape and size of the object.
    mai = flat shped things
    hon = cylindrical shaped things
    ko = things in individual units

    Actually the number comes AFTER the noun.
    ...hon issatu...
    ...pen ippon...
    ...kami sanmai...

    Yes, you can say:
    yonjuumai no osara
    ippon no pen
    issatu no hon
    And you can SOMETIMES SAY:
    ...yonjuuno osara...
    But that is a little advanced and I would avoid using that form until you are au-fait with counting.

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