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正是 vs 便是?
What is the difference? What is the etimology?
As far as I know 正 should be regarded as "straight", so 正+是 (straight+true) which can be translated as "straight like" or "exactly as".
But 便 should mean something like "handy" or "being handy". By the way you can see "a handle"(top)+ "a hand"(bottom) and "a man"(left) in the character itself. So what does 便是 exactly mean and what is the difference with 正是? 便是 should have some special connotation quiet different from 正是 or at least the were different in the old times.
Yes I know the difference should be tiny. Please, refrain from stating that "they are equal".
p.s. PLEASE, guys. I'm NOT interested in how 便是 can be changed into some other 即使纵然就是 and so on. I'm interested in WHAT WAY 便是 is DIFFERENT from all other such phrases.Guys thank you for your answers, but still your examples are not enoug.
So what I can gather from your posts^
1)便是 is more formal and used mainly in literature, articles. Not interesting because It does not uncover nature of 便.
2)正是 is 100% sure while 便是 is not 100%. Not interesting because it does not uncover the nature of 便.
3)便 is more like "so" rather than "straingt" or "then" or "just". Now THIS IS interesting.!!!
If someone could read the article
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7f68zPex4RieXlKMzZNdV9Ndm8
then maybe we all will have interesting answers for this question. Thanks
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就像 vs 好像 ?
What is the difference? What is the etimology?
As far as I know 就 has something to do with "then".I CAN understand how 就+像 (then+like) meaning could have evolved into "just like".
In the case of 好+像(good+like) evolution into 好像 I'm lost.
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What is the difference between all of those 论 's (disscussions)?
Recently I've fond myself not able to differentiate between different variants of "discussions" in chinese. I have some vauge ideas about their differences and I will add connotation (as I see it) to those words I know.
2. 讨论= to press an opition
4. 评论= to weight, to balance
5. 结论= to tie a knot
6. 争论= fight over the opinion
7. 议论=disscuss=diss+cuss - as in separating a sacred animal
9. 谈论=light talk about opinions
10. 辩论=separate again? what is the difference with 7?
12. 言论=single word = expression of opinion
13. 试论
17. 推论=push an opinion to others
19. 纵论=wrap an opinion? What does it mean?
22. 立论=stand on the ground of an opinion
23. 政论=goverment opinion
25. 绪论
26. 定论=define=axiom
30. 通论=popular opinion
33. 并论=simultaneous disscussion?
90. 终论=final opiniton
120. 讲论=talk about your opinion. explain
126. 成论=to create an opinion, to come to an opinion.
127. 异论
128. 具论
131. 漂论
133. 素论
135. 要论
151. 正论=right opinion
158. 略论
167. 阐论
168. 笃论
169. 大论
171. 策论
180. 泛论
181. 比论
190. 宏论
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即 vs 就 vs 便
I know that many natives think there is no difference between 即, 就, 便 but I'm not interested in modern meaning of those characters. I'm seeking a good theory of evolution or etymology of those characters.
How they become?
What functions they executed in ancient writings?
By understanding original nature of 即, 就, 便 I guess I'll be more skillful in their usage.
Thanks.
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What does 即使 literary means?
As far as I know 即 is an ancient pronoun indicatin direction lile "this", "these". After some time, like many pronouns (for example 是 as another "this" pronoun), the canonical meaning changed into "this is", becoming some kind of copula.
Now 即使 according to the mentioned above should literary mean "this+use" which shoul be read as "using this (as a hypothesis)" or "if even".
Am I right about 即使 ?
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