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"Egli/Ella"&"lui/lei", alcuni differenze.../ "Egli/ella", regionalism, planet "lit"...,both even?
[The single most interesting piece of info I' ve read on the subject so far is that "egli/ella" is an acceptable regionalism in the spoken language, as well as something to be found in literature, mostly.
1. What kind of a no-no does it constitute (as regards the spoken and written language) then? Could anybody explain this on "native"/ "non native" speaker standards? (Unfortunately, I don't have a "feel" for Italian yet & cannot tell at all. I have even seen it commented as "ridiculous" when used -spoken language- but that was just some random blog...)
2. If these are a couple of "archaic legacy pronouns" growing scarcer, does this mean there's a difference in how a 7-year-old and a 70-year-old would use this today? Does this "archaic" take me some decades back? "Italian Unification'' back? Roughly speaking; not bent on dates here.]
'E "egli/ella" sempre un errore nella lingua parlata e scritta?
'E "strano" nella lingua parlata?
Usano i più anziani questi pronomi più "spesso"?
2013년 10월 20일 오후 7:16
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/ella/ nella lingua scritta funziona benissimo, in quanto /lei/ puo` avere
un significato ambiguo.
Nel parlato /ella/ suonerebbe strano.
/ella/ NON e` un regionalismo.
2013년 10월 20일
Hi Maria,
Egli and Ella are subject pronouns, and Lui and Lei are object pronouns also used as indirect complements.
Egli è venuto, e l'ho detto a lui.
But Lui and Lei are also used as subject in spoken and written language.
Lui è venuto insieme a lei.
Be careful to "Lei", this is also a formal pronouns for you.
Egli & Ella are not regionalism neither really archaic words, but in actual italian they are not used very often, just in written language.
Answers:
1) no mistakes as used as subject pronouns
2) yes, it sounds a little strange or old way of speaking
3) no, old people do not use them.
Usually you can find Egli & Ella in documents and legals.
In an another question I linked to an interesting page that explains more, but now I can't find it, I hope this link can help too:
http://dizionari.corriere.it/dizionario-si-dice/L/lui.shtml
2013년 10월 20일
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