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Khe Jia Ming
Fluency and Grammar, which is more important.

Nowadays, a lot of people who study foreign language by " locking themselves in room", it might help you to past written language test, memorizing those vocabulary  and deal with those grammatical stuff. However, most of them struggle to complete a sentence when come to speaking. On the other hand, there's some people who don't really master the grammatical rules that well but able to speak fluently in their target language. 

So how you guys think about it, fluency and Grammar, which is more important?

Jul 30, 2016 1:30 PM
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...a lot of people who study a foreign language by " locking themselves in a room"

Errr, no. This is exactly why italki was created. It helps us communicate. Italki members want to talk to each other.

...there are some people who haven't really mastered the grammatical rules that well but are able to speak their target language fluently

Again, no. Speakers like this expect the listener to interpret their sloppy efforts into the standard language. This is simply rude.

So anyway, what's your opinion?

July 30, 2016
Frankly, I think having bad grammar makes a person sound uneducated. If your goal is simply to communicate and be understood on a basic level then I guess fluency's more important, but to really know a language well, you need to study its grammar. 
July 30, 2016

Great question, and the answer of course is:


Both are equally important!


I  remember the way that language was taught to us in school, and if I had designed the classes, I would never have done it the way they did. We sat in a room learning grammar rules by rote and doing written exercises, and rarely (if ever) did we speak or use the target language orally. It was a complete waste of time and it robbed all of us of a linguistic education that could have been really useful and fun. 


If you really want to learn a language, fluency and grammar are equally important. If you focus on just grammar, when it comes to speaking you won't be able to get the words out. If you don't know the rules, you will make a lot of mistakes and not sound competent.

So put your efforts into both of these things equally. Learn the grammar, and then use it right away!



July 30, 2016

Fluency is more important that grammar. Most people you encounter, you will use spoken words or text messages. Text messages have a language of its own, so grammar is not important. Grammar is important in professional correspondence only. 

The goal of learning a language is to communicate, plus most native speakers have horrible grammar. :)

July 30, 2016
Some people who claim themselves as native English speaker don't really care much about the grammatical rules. Just take a look at my parents, they are really native English speakers, but they speak it in a " broken"way by mixing other languages vocabulary and grammatical rules. For example, " Where did you go just now?" they would say " You go where just now harr ?" But it still make sense and mostly other people understand even it might be sounded incompetent.
July 30, 2016
Khe Jia Ming
Language Skills
Chinese (Mandarin), Chinese (Cantonese), Chinese (Taiwanese), English, Indonesian, Japanese, Malay, Vietnamese
Learning Language
Chinese (Cantonese), Chinese (Taiwanese), English, Indonesian, Japanese, Malay, Vietnamese