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David
Japanese Grammar Negative Verbs I need clarification :)

I have been slowly going through a Japanese grammar guide by Tae Kim.

I have a few questions only because it took me hours to understand what I was reading.

from what I understand to make a  verb negative you add ない example.

食べる  > 食べない ? right?

then there is the う verbs and a few stuck out to me.

帰る    > 帰らない  why does it become kaeranai instead of kaenai?

する > しない why is it shinai and not sanai? I thought it has be a (A) sounding vowel.

くる    > ごない why is it gonai and not kanai?

thanks for any clarification i'm sort of confused about this :)









Aug 6, 2016 6:51 AM
Comments · 4

する and くる are irregular verbs, so you just have to learn them the way they are.

 However, u-verbs would usually end in "u", but there exist u-verbs which end in "ru" as well and 帰る is one of them - they still ARE u-verbs, so you should use the conjugation rules which apply to verbs which would end in "u". To make all verbs (with the exception of ru-verbs) negative, you need to change the ending to the "a" sound.Thats why its 帰る > 帰らない。

 買う > 買わない

 すう > すわない

 変わる > 変わらない

 It's just one of the conjugations rules which you will master soon with some practicing.

 I also used Tae Kim's guide and I think the explanations very pretty clear. I hope mine helps you too though :]

August 6, 2016
It is not ごない, but こない. And, as it is an convention, like all languages, there is no way to answer why it is that way. Maybe is easier to learn it from the masu form, as the Minna no Nihongo does. That way, the change from します to しない is not so terrible. In any way, both する and くる are the only two irregular verbs and requires a little more effort. Consider getting a copy of Minna no Nihongo.
August 6, 2016

Oh good, you're an English speaker.

So, regarding your question, I think I'll ask you a question instead of trying to answer it LOL.
In English, you say: I don't.....We don't.....They don't.... right? So why do you say She doesn't.....He doesn't....It doesn't instead of She don't.....He don't....It don't????  Now that think about it, why don't we just add "not" before every single verb so we don't have to "painfully" switch between "don't and "doesn't".   I not do this.   We not do this. She not do this. So AWESOME  and SIMPLE ^^.  WIN-WIN WHOOOOOOOOO.

So yeah, with that being said, try to answer that question of mine and maybe you'll just natural be able to answer your question by yourself. In other words, You'll COMPREHEND THIS ISSUE.

August 8, 2016

I have learn't quite a bit of the masu form

ikimasu

ikimashita

ikimasen

ikimasendeshita

nomimasu

nomimashita

nomimasen

nomimasendeshita

tabemasu

tabemashita

tabemasen

tabemasendeshita

yomimasu

yomimashita

yomimasen

yomimasendeshita

mimasu

mimashita

mimasen

mimasendeshita


cant remember anymore from memory :)

August 6, 2016
David
Language Skills
English, Japanese
Learning Language
Japanese