Alex Jong
Could anybody explain the difference between "needn't do sth" and "don't need to sth"?
Apr 24, 2017 7:27 AM
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I agree with Phil. You don't need 'needn't'!

As you probably know, 'ordinary' verbs use the auxiliary 'do' for questions and negatives in simple tenses. Meanwhile, modal verbs - such as 'can' or 'will' - use inversion for questions and affix the 'not' for negatives. The other difference is that modal verbs are followed by a bare infinitive (without 'to').

There are also a handful of verbs which can be used both ways.. 'Need' is one, and 'dare' is another. That why we can say "Need I go?" or "Do I need to go?", and "You don't need to stay" or "You needn't stay".

In general, the modal-style construction is more formal and old-fashioned. It is almost never used in US English, and it's being used less and less even in British English. Younger speakers rarely use the "Need I..?"  and "I needn't.." construction nowadays, even in the UK.

The only situation where there is a clear distinction is when we use the modal form of  'need' in the past:

"He didn't need to study for his exam"  means that he didn't study, because it wasn't necessary.  He already knew his subject well, so he took his exam without needing to study for it.

"He needn't have studied for his exam" means that he DID study for his exam, but this turned out to have been unnecessary. Perhaps he opened up his exam paper and found out that it covered very easy subjects that he'd known about before he started studying. Or perhaps the exam was cancelled completely. Whatever the scenario, 'needn't have studied' means that it was a waste of time.

So, if anyone asks you what the difference is between 'needn't' and 'don't need' - there's your answer.  However, you can get through life perfectly well without ever using 'needn't'. I wouldn't worry about it too much, if I were you.



April 25, 2017
You really needn’t use “needn’t” — Americans rarely use it, if at all. In UK English, “You needn’t have” means that you actually did something that was unnecessary. For example “Thank you, but you needn’t have bought me such a nice present!” Another example: You needn’t have studied, since there was never going to be any test.

In contrast, “You didn’t need to” merely states that something was unnecessary, without indicating whether or not you did it. Example: “I didn’t need to study because I already knew the material."
April 24, 2017

I agree with other comments here.In everyday conversation, I sometimes say things like this: 

In everyday conversation, I sometimes say things like this: 

"I did a lot of work preparing for the lesson but I needn't have bothered (preparing for the lesson) because the student had his own plan for what he wanted to do."

Grammar and coursebooks which teach this part of the language perhaps need to emphasise more that it is fading from everyday use.

April 25, 2017

Hello.

A good question and a helpful answer.

I always wanted to know it. 

So thank you both you.

April 25, 2017