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Greneg078
Understanding of listening

I listen to a lot of TV news and a radio podcasts. I have noticed recently that sometimes I can understand almost everything and another time I can understand hardly what. I don't know what it depends on.

Do you have your effective way or any explanation how to deal with this matter?

Mar 22, 2018 7:53 PM
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Now how I solved that problem. (need to write a discussion about it... so I just could give a link each time I want to share the story).

Some week I was typing so much and so quick - without even bothering about mistakes and...well, sometimes to read my friend's answer - that I started forgetting "how to say that in Russian" and started to HATE English (or felt nausea at least, absolutely).
It was a very interesting conversation, it consumed me entirely and I was typing in a chat really quickly many hours a day for a few days. Then I opened news in youtube (highly uncommon thing for me), paused it, feel asleep.
Youtube page refreshed, and in the morning I dreamt that someone is speaking English and i understand everything.

I woke up... someone (PC) indeed was speaking. Then I realized that I indeed understand everything.

I can think of one explanation and it si much about 'how to say that in Russian?'. I think, English was uploaded to 'quick access memory' (and Russian partly removed from there). When I heard a combination of sounds (note that my passive vocabulary was huge) my mind was searching for a match. And normally the guy could say 2 more words before I come up with a guess. Now searching was 100 times faster. I could hear a word that I'd always imagined pronounced differently - and see my mistake immediately, without thinking:)

Interestingly, if that time it was effortless and I felt like I understand 100% of what is said (as if I was reading) and it continued for a few days or two weeks may be -  2 month later I tried the same channel again... And there was difference. Now I had to concentrate and it was not 100%. But almost so.
March 22, 2018
Grzegorz, for English and me:
- another learner from Europe: 0 points of difficulty
- C2 learner from Europe 3 points.
- a newscaster or a C2 learner who's lived in an English speaking country: 5 points.
- a normal native speaker 7-12 points, depends on a dialect.

And the point is that English phonology is 'exotic' from Russian perspective (compared to say Romance) and I havent't got it.

This is now. There was a time when I was a fluent (very!!!!!) reader and couldn't only udnerstand some 1/3 of words in newscasters speech:) It was solved without listening practice.
March 22, 2018
I have the same problem Grzegorz.
Of course it may depend on the topic of what I'm listening to. It may happen that my vocabulary is not sufficient to understand it well. But the reason for that can be different, because sometimes I can hardly recognise the words I know well. 
It depends on the person who is speaking. The native speakers use different varieties of the language, sometimes include words and phrases which are seldom known by the foreigners. When the pronunciation is clear- it's easier to understand. When the speaker doesn't sound the 'R' consonants or others- it's getting harder. That's why it's sometimes easier to listen to a good level non-native speaker.
Some languages sound more clearly than the others. I always wondered why I can understand more from the Spanish, Italian or German TV than from English even though my level in those languages is much lower. 

To conclude: there is nothing to complain about - the more we will listen to different types of pronunciation the more we will understand. 
March 22, 2018

Special accent,  above average speed and unusual vocabulary usage can make it really hard to get the gist. I think it would be effective to hear the same sentence and sentence variations from different persons, but I think making such a big database would require too much efforts. But perhaps a site similar to fraze.it -but with auido would be great. I don't know perhaps there is one somewhere, I just haven't heard of it so far.

I almost forgot to mention, watching pronunciation related videos  (like this below), helped me .. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gitG_03GaqI


 

March 22, 2018
Greneg078
Language Skills
English, French, Polish
Learning Language
English, French