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The most difficult thing at language learning

A month now I started studying English in a "formal" class.

Something that I found interesting is while I struggle with grammar [I hate it!] there are people who actually like it. And while I love speaking, some of them find it too hard [hence they don't like it].

That makes me ask:

What is, for you, the most difficult thing at language learning?

Have you tried something to solve it?

In order to solve my grammar problem I started reading a lot of blogs and magazines because I wanted to "get used" to the correct way of using English instead of memorizing tons of grammar rules :)



Apr 16, 2018 10:26 PM
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It’s funny, but your grammar seems to be progressing very nicely, despite your claim to “hate it.” I think there is a lot of confusion as to what constitutes “grammar,” and how grammar is best learned. “Grammar” is mostly about applying affixes to words (in European or Semitic languages for example) and putting the words together to form phrases, clauses, and understandable sentences. Good job! It’s useful to study grammar paradigms and all, but  actually “reading a lot of blogs and magazines” can be far more valuable, not just in terms of learning grammar in context, but also acquiring vocabulary.  You say that you enjoy talking, well, in my opinion, grammar is best practiced orally, not in writing. (There are several solid reasons for this, which I don’t have time to go into right now.) On the other hand, peaking just for the sake of speaking, without regard to proper grammar, is counter-productive.

April 17, 2018
Perhaps rephrase :"A month now I started studying English in a "formal" class." 

As either:  For the last month I have been taking formal English classes.

Or : I have been taking formal English classes for a month. 

Or: I have been enroled in a formal English class for a month now.

Or: I have been studying English formally for a month now.
April 16, 2018
It depends on the language for me. I'm comfortable speaking French if I know what I'm saying. But with Korean I don't usually attempt to speak it. I prefer to write it down. I'm good with learning grammar and find it much easier to apply my knowledge of grammar to how natives would then speak, instead of the other way round.
April 16, 2018

Hello Andres.

i'm learning english and in my classroom everybody hates grammar. everybody has his own reasons.

for me the reason that i hate grammar because of when my instructor explain something about any role of grammar i find it easy, but when it comes in an exam about. i feel like i'm so confuse especially between present perfect and present perfect continuous and other roles. most of the time i prefer speaking/listening instead of studying grammar

April 18, 2018
Hello!

The main two problems I've run into is confidince in speaking the language im studying(in my case im studying Japanese) and motivation. They're both linked to the difficulty of finding people speak with. I don't get to utilize alot of what i study because it is hard to find people locally that know the language. I dont imagine it would be a problem for you since english is a very prolific language.

The only tip that i can personally give is while learning grammar there are alot of oddities with what words are used in a spesific scenario. Even as a native speaker i sometimes struggle with grammar, but it definitely does get easier with time. Its always best if you can break down sentences or diagram them. It can take a sentence that seems very odd and clearly show what each component is and why it was used in the sentence.

The example i like using is "The horse raced past the barn fell." Its intended to mislead with its wording even though it is gramatically correct. When you break down the sentence, it says "The horse that raced past the barn fell." This type of sentence is uncommon but it does happen on occasion.

Dont ever be scared to strike up a conversatiln with a native speaker, its the only way to get past the inital fear of speakng, and it helps validate the work you have put in! 

Good luck with your studies, it definitely shows that you have put alot of work into studying already!
April 18, 2018
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Andres
Language Skills
English, Spanish
Learning Language
English