Juhn G
Think, pence and 思う

- Je pense que ce film était amusant.

When I was making corrections to someone's notebook, I hold a strange feeling in this sentence because the sentence's paraphrase in Japanese is like this.

- その映画はおもしろかったと思う。

This Japanese doesn't seem to have any flaws in it. But I remind myself when I do say like this. I will never say like that because I just say 

- その映画は面白かった。

This phrase in English is like this

- I think the movie was fun.

Does this cause you any such feelings as I felt?

In contrast,  it will never look strange if it would be like this.

- Je pensait que ce film était amusant.

- I thought the movie was fun.

- その映画は面白いと思った。

What is this problem?
May 8, 2018 10:59 AM
Comments · 2
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Kit, you are right on that the sentence has both meanings and the same in Japanese. I think  "j'ai trouve..." is a more natural and frequent expression in the daily situations in Japanese or French than the double-meaning one. As you say, the language have to be actually focused on tones. But this suggestion from me is focused only on the writing. It's very tough to me, just an ordinary people not a linguist, isn't it? I like linguistics and like more on tones. Thank you for your comments. Language is fun!
May 9, 2018
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I think Japanese native-speaker ever corrected me writing : その映画は面白いだと思いました。

But I think, in class, I have ever seen the sentence wrote like in your exemple :S maybe we learn a correct but non-natural Japanese. it's equivalent in french, saying : "Je pensais que c'était un film amusant" is completely correct, but we rather say :" j'ai trouvé ce film amusant."

"Je pensais que c'était un film amusant" can suggest both the idea that you did think the movie was fun and the idea that you thought the movie was fun ( but it is actually not ). (その映画は面白いだと思ったけど。。。)

You can also say that to be sarcastic, changing the tone of the sentence ( as far as there are tones in French hahaha, I feel like my mother tongue is the flattest in the word )

Languages are so nuanced and elusive :)


May 9, 2018