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Music in this day and age
Kalina's recent post about "contemporary instrumental music" made me wonder about the impact of visuals on the perception of music. In the modern world we seem to put high value on what the eyes convey us; glitz and glamour dominate most people's lives, fashion is of high import.

In Kalina's thread pretty much all music came in the shape of a youtube-clip; that means, just given the neurological throughput from each sense, roughly 80% of what we get out of each piece of "music" is actually visual.

Some of the music I found great, stunning, mesmerising while I watched the clips. But if I made the "mistake" to flick away from some of the clips to look at a different browser tab some of the music suddenly became drab, some even grating to the extent that I felt I had to close the tab producing the noise.

How visual has music become in the last 15, 20 years?
Do you find that some music becomes unbearable without its video clip?
Do you still actually just listen to music?

May 23, 2020 9:30 PM
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“I was surprised to see Satie in your list =}... he's not really all that popular.”

Seriously? 🙈 You actually surprised me, clovek 😃
To me the man is a legend! His music melts the heart 🥰
Years ago I heard his music on the radio and loved it but I had no idea who the composer was. Luckily when the movie “The Painted Veil” was released, they used his music in the soundtrack and just then I knew it was Erik Satie!

I know that you didn’t post your discussion so that we post music, but I couldn’t help it 😂
You are most welcome 🍀
May 24, 2020
Thank you @Mumtaz :)
I'm glad I made you laugh =}

And I totally get what you mean by the bringing tears to your eyes.

Also thank you for sharing the music!


@James I can relate to that as well ... as a teenager I'd occasionally lie in a darkened room, eyes closed, headphones on and listen to music for hours.
May 24, 2020
“...some even grating to the extent that I felt I had to close the tab producing the noise.”
I laughed when I read this part 😂 You are right! Sometimes I would listen to a suggestion of a good song/music by someone and to my ears it would sound more like noise so I can’t focus unless I close the tab!

I do listen to music, but it’s not any music! It’s so mesmerizing that it gives me goosebumps and easily put tears in my eyes! Not because it’s depressing but it’s beyond beautiful that I can’t describe it in words! A videoclip isn’t really needed for great music 🥰



If anything, enjoying these masterpieces requires that you close your eyes 💚
May 23, 2020
Once it happened that a song of the Pixies, "Velouria", reached the highest charts in the UK and the band had to made a videoclip only because there was a rule at Top of the Pops that wanted bands to perform live on the show only if the song was released with a videoclip.

Here's the link of the official video, which, as you can see, cost them a lot of effort :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc0Mv4Iyxvc

(by the way "Where's my mind", one of their most famous songs, doesn't have a videoclip)

May 24, 2020
Sorry for not answering the actual question.

I'm not sure I agree with the implication that music has only become a largely visual experience in recent times. It seems to me that the musical experience has always relied on a mixture of the auditory, visual and kinaesthetic senses, if to varying degrees. I imagine that the visual and kinaesthetic elements were downplayed by the introduction of musical records in the late 19th century, and the visual given prominence again with the popularization of music videos (or maybe glam rock started it?).

If you listened to Tchaikovsky in his own time, you would likely have done so with the visual accompaniment of dancers interpreting the movement of swans in a lake: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GsajWIF3ws

Mozart composed much of his music to accompany stories on the stage - and for the most part, these happened to be the kinds of stories that also required colourful costumes, spectacle, and even visual jokes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaLaFNzwgc
I like to imagine that Mozart actually did introduce fist-pumping to conducting.

If you were one of the 99% who couldn't afford a carriage downtown to see the latest opera - or if you lived before that fad came along in the first place - you would probably have experienced your favourite tunes in the context of dancing with the other villagers:

Okay, so this last example isn't very visual, but it does include a sense other than hearing. They are experiencing the music in their bodies as well as in their ears, and it's not obvious that the auditory aspect is much more important than the kinaesthetic aspect. And what if you couldn't/didn't want to join in the dancing? Chances are, you'd still be watching the dance at the same time as listening to the music. So it would remain a partly visual experience, dreary as the spectacle might be.
May 24, 2020
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