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Alexey
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Hello everyone!
Is it really possible to attain so-called "nativity" in a foreign language?

I'm asking it because despite living in Russia I've been practically living in an English speaking country for the last two years, but I got only 7.0 on IELTS which is kind of frustrating thought. What I mean by living in an english speaking country is I'm reading everything in English, and I meant it - all news, political analisis, current issues, watching all series and films in English and I'm not getting further. At least I don't feel it at all.

Have you ever seen someone who somehow managed to gain near native level when it was hard to tell whether he is from an english speaking country or not? It's not a matter of life and death for me, but quite disappointing anyway.
Thank you!

Feb 2, 2015 10:53 PM
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@Victoria - nothing but perfection is acceptable! Joke. 

@Schlafbernd - booze is something that you drink, buddy.

February 3, 2015

Hello everyone!
Is it really possible to attain a so-called "native voice" in a foreign language?

I'm asking because despite living in Russia I've been practically living in an English speaking country for the last two years, but I only got a 7.0 in IELTS which is kind of frustrating. What I mean by living in an English speaking country is I'm reading everything in English, and I mean it - all news, political analysis, current issues, watching all series and films in English and I'm not getting any further. At least I don't feel I am, at all.

Have you ever known someone who somehow managed to gain a near native level; when it was hard to tell whether he is from an English speaking country or not? It's not a matter of life and death to me, but quite disappointing anyway.
Thank you!

 

Articles are a great indicator of native speech. If the article is omitted it registers with native speakers on a fundamental level. I know the concept of articles is quite foreign and bemusing to Russian speakers but persevere and you'll get there.

Удачи!!

 

February 3, 2015

FYI, "nativity" has a different meaning. In this case I would say "...a so-called native level..."

February 3, 2015

I love booze. 

February 3, 2015

I was wondering about the word 'nativity' also.

 

I've never heard this term used in the context of language learning to mean 'native-speaker level'. I'm not saying it can't be used with this meaning. It's just that personally I have never come across this usage before.

 

To most English speakers it has a religious connotation, and makes us think of the plays that kiddies do at Christmas, and the little scenes in the stable .. donkey, angels, kings bearing gifts, that kind of thing.

 

 

February 3, 2015
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Alexey
Language Skills
English, Russian
Learning Language