what do you guys think about italki? is it really a help for you to pick up a new languge? Or just wanna have some chats with random strangers? so far I haven't done anything strickly about learning languges XDDD! because random chatting helps little, as long as we can communicate, the grammar doesn't really matter! does it?
I don't think italki in and of itself is that helpful. It might help you connect with people who can help you but it's almost like throwing a bottle in the ocean and it magically reaching that person who can help you. It's not very likely.
I'm not sure if italki has thought about the later steps though. I mean, I like the platform itself, it's quite open in the way people can communicate with each other, but essentially it's nothing more than a "Facebook" for people who are interested in learning languages.
When I signed up years ago I always had the idea italki was going to grow into something bigger. Back then there was document sharing and stuff as well, so you could download pdfs and stuff that other people had written. That was quite helpful but I guess they got flak for that since people uploaded copyright-protected material as well. Bummer...
Now, there's a competitor that does offer more stuff, including audio recording and reviewing which I really like but their system just got updated (I think they sold out to Rosetta Stone or something) and now it's absolute shit. I guess they really helped italki with that move. But I still think italki could learn a thing or two from them in terms of how much the site itself contributed to language learning and not just as a platform to connect people. Their old version used to have a lot more interactive stuff where you could actually learn stuff while on the site itself.
Italki is very helpful. You can not only have a chat, but also look for teachers and language partners. For me, it is quite helpful to have a chat because I still can't talk about a lot of topics. To be honest, most of the expressions native speakers usually use in discussions are too complicated for me to learn from directly, but still discussions always give me a good motivation. I often wonder what to say in English when I see an interesting discussion. I think it is really important to wonder what to say once, even though I can't think of anything immediately. You might have heard of a 'mind map'. I can often put another branch of a mind map in my head when I wonder what to say, and when I see the rignt expression I can put a new one to the end of the branch.
@H (sorry you're name is too long, thus the abbreviation) - what's the other site? Sharedtalk?
well... on some certain situations, i did communicated without grammar. when i was in the state i talked to shop owner like " bread, water, plz" this sort of things worked on me ahahhaXDDDDD
How can you communicate without grammar?