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Do you know if stainless steal is magnetic or not? (Bonus: USEFUL IDIOMATIC EXPRESSIONS)
Do you know if stainless steel is magnetic or not? I’m not asking if it’s magnetic or not — people can easily look that up, so let’s not spoil the surprise. I’m asking if you know the answer, because frankly, I did not. Despite using the stuff every day for decades, on finding out the truth, you could have knocked me over with a (stainless steel) spoon.

Language notes:  
“You could have knocked me over with a spoon” is a less common variant of the idiomatic expression / metaphor “You could have knocked me over with a feather”, an expression meaning that the speaker was astonished by something (picture someone so off-balance they could actually be knocked over with a feather. In my post, we find the less common variant, probably because the spoons in my house are stainless steel.

Related expressions:
“To be born with a silver spoon”: To be born into wealth and privilege.

Edit: An observant reader has pointed out that there is a misspelling in the post. Feel free to comment on it :)
13 de fev de 2020 01:18
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Wow! Had I known this would be my most popular discussion of the year, I would’ve proofread it!

Su.Ki.: Thanks for the awesome limerick! Actually, students rarely confuse the spelling of “steel” and “steal” — the real problem is that they go crazy trying to hear the difference! Note to learners: “Steel” and “steal” are pronounced exactly the same in English (and have been for hundreds of years). “Still” is pronounced differently, although there are some (non-standard) regional accents where they’ve merged.

By the way, Su, nice unfinished limerick trick! Which reminds me:
There once was a man from Nantucket,
His reputation was so highly exaggerated you wouldn't believe it.

Som: “Spoonerisms” — good one!

Ali: Thanks. Actually, that’s the full expression in English too: “To be born with a silver spoon in one’s mouth.”

Natalie writes:
<em>@Su.Ki.</em>
<em>To spoon-feed (someone)</em>

<em>It was used in the very first comment here by Karl. I believe you two made me memorize it by employing phycholinguistic guessing, timely repetition and providing good examples)</em>

Good to know this thread has at least a little educational value for ESL learners!

Will continue commenting on comments when I can.
14 de fevereiro de 2020
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In support of Dan's comment about the old-fashioned verb "to spoon"

from 3 dictionaries:

<ul><li>Spoon (verb)Older Use. to show affection or love toward (someone) by kissing and caressing, especially in an openly sentimental manner.</li></ul>

<ul><li>slang, old-fashioned to kiss and cuddle</li></ul>

<ul><li>informal, dated (of two people) behave in an amorous way; kiss and cuddle.</li></ul>

13 de fevereiro de 2020
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Now that the answer has been disclosed--and now I've looked in Wikipedia to refresh my memory and find that stainless steel alloys fall in three broad categories, "austenitic," "ferritic," and "martensitic," and the first is the most common and "usually" non-magnetic, while the others are "usually" magnetic--I can tell a story.

I was in a university machine shop where they built things for scientists (and polite grad students).There happened to be a big stainless steel tray in the room. And there also happened to be a big magnet. This was before the days when rare-earth magnets were common, but you did get some very strong alnico magnets. This one was about the size of a coffee can, and if it got stuck to something it was <em>very</em> hard to detach it. Might have had a "lifting power" of more than fifty pounds.

So someone says "Did you know that stainless steel isn't magnetic?" And someone, goofing around, said "Really?" Picks up the big magnet, brings it to the tray to test, and when it's about an inch away the tray flies up, sticks to the magnet, and makes a loud, dull "GONGGGGGG" sound that startles everyone in the room. And it then took several people pulling hard to detach the magnet from the stainless steel tray.
13 de fevereiro de 2020
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I <em>think</em> I know the answer. I think that there are many <em>different</em> alloys known by the name "stainless steel" and that... ("select all" or "ctrl-A" to see answer)
vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
some of them are magnetic and some are not.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

If you have a stainless steel stein and Gertrude Stein steals your steel stein, then you are steinless.

13 de fevereiro de 2020
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Stainless "steel".
Yes, I know the answer. Thank you Walter Lewin from MIT and your wonderful online lectures. I'm a physics nerd you see, and I love it when universities put their lectures online to spoon-feed old dudes like me!
13 de fevereiro de 2020
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Catalão, Chinês (Mandarim), Chinês (Cantonês), Inglês, Francês, Alemão, Hebraico, Italiano, Português, Espanhol
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