Jan Hanna
Tutor de la comunidad
Telling you how to get C2 in Egyptian Arabic speaking and what is making that hard

I spoke with a lot of students their level between b2-c1 but they still can not get c2

I think is so easy but they have a problems . I am telling you problems .

1- You have to have a lot of time to study

2- you have listen a lot of films and series Egyptian

3 - listen every day and every where songs Egyptian

4- When your emotions will be influenced by Egyptian songs and you feel that you want cry when listen to sad song that mean you are near to c2 or almost c2 

5 - For sure you have to speak with native (Egyptians).

6- If you do not have chance to chat with Egyptians OK . You could sing song and record your voice . listen to series and try to repeat and record .


7-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD6BI1DaLJo

This is a Egyptian sad song . If you will listen and understand and influenced emotionaly that mean you C2 or almost C2 


21 de ene. de 2018 10:27
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I disagree with you. Music transcends the language barrier. It is part of the normal human experience to have a massive emotional response to music and be very moved by it, even if you understand only a few words or no words at all.

Therefore, it is incorrect to state that somebody must be C2 level just because they have an emotional response to a song.

Also, just because they understand all the lyrics of one particular song, that doesn't necessarily mean they are C2, either. 

I direct you to the actual definition of somebody who is C2 level:

<ul style="margin: 0.3em 0px 0px 1.6em; padding: 0px; list-style-image: url("data:image/svg+xml,%3Csvg xmlns=%22http://www.w3.org/2000/svg%22 width=%225%22 height=%2213%22%3E %3Ccircle cx=%222.5%22 cy=%229.5%22 r=%222.5%22 fill=%22%2300528c%22/%3E %3C/svg%3E"); color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">Can understand with ease virtually everything [not just one song!] heard or read.</li><li style="background-color: rgb(248, 249, 250); margin-bottom: 0.1em;">Can summarize information from different spoken and written sources, reconstructing arguments and accounts in a coherent presentation.</li><li style="background-color: rgb(248, 249, 250); margin-bottom: 0.1em;">Can express themselves spontaneously, very fluently and precisely, differentiating finer shades of meaning even in the most complex situations.</li></ul>


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_European_Framework_of_Reference_for_Languages


21 de enero de 2018
10

My name is Ayman Fawy. Second, you seem like you LOVE to argue and repeat what you know without understanding the other person.Third, I will not correct 10 wrong points, because I am not here to teach you.

FYI, people are not measured by how many languages they know. Unlike you, I know my native language very well, and I don't make silly mistakes in English like you. Please, don't go to my profile like a teenager to catch something to argue about, You don't know about my life and my experience. I am obviously older than you, but when I was your age, I was more mature than you. GROW UP and educate yourself, before trying to educate others.

22 de enero de 2018
9
I don't think you know the meaning of the CEFR levels. they are not for every language, and, of course, they are not made for Arabic. FYI, most of the native speakers cannot achieve C2 in their own language. They must study the language in depth, and understand every aspect of the language. It doesn't relate to understanding songs, and listening to songs won't improve your language to C2 level. it may help you get used to the language or learn new vocabulary, but if you cried to a song doesn't mean you achieved C2 level. CEFR is measured only by passing specific exams, 
I hope that makes it clear to you.
22 de enero de 2018
7

Janik: users are not required to disclose which languages they speak if they do not wish to do so.

I passed a C2 exam in a second language. The exam was very difficult. I assure you that it did not consist of listening to songs and disclosing whether or not we registered an emotional response to them. Rather, the exam consisted of reading, writing, listening, and speaking.

21 de enero de 2018
5

Janik, wise up.

As I have already stated, it is not compulsory for users to list all the languages they know if they don't want to.

There are three obvious reasons why some people may not choose to list what languages they speak.

Firstly, I have not bothered to list my second language because I am no longer actively learning it. I achieved total fluency (C2) in my second language long ago, so I'm now learning another.

Secondly, not all users come here to boast. Some italki users just seem to want to boast about how many languages they know, and they seem to think that it's some sort of competition and that they must add as many languages to their profiles as they possibly can, and exaggerate their ability in each language they list. Therefore, since for them it's all about boasting at every available opportunity, they find it inconceivable that somebody would choose not to add all the languages they know to their profile. Well, not all people are here to boast and compete. I am not here to boast or compete. I'm here to participate, help out, learn, and observe.

Thirdly, since you're not a native English speaker yourself, perhaps you are not aware of the sheer volume of requests that native English speakers receive from other users asking for help with English. Some native speakers of English may prefer not to list all the languages they know because they wish to avoid being bombarded with messages from people who have noticed that they have languages in common. There's a reason my language of study is currently listed as "Other".


22 de enero de 2018
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