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Pronunciation of "some"
I just came across this pronunciation rule for the first time.
When "some" is used before a number to mean "approximately", "some" is usually pronounced \sʌm\.
e.g. Some 80% of all residents took part in the vote.
When "some" is used to refer to particular group of people or things but in an indefinite way, "some" is usually pronounced \səm\
e.g. A: Where were you last night? B: I was visiting (some) friends.
so, \ə\ is pronounced like alive, again, mother while \ʌ\ is pronounced like fun, love, money, one, London, come.
The thing is I don't see any difference in both pronunciations. Because to me, "o" in "mother" and "money" are pronounced the same.
Can you tell me what the difference is?
Source: Advanced Grammar in Use - Cambridge
Thank you.
21 de ene. de 2019 8:26
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The \ʌ\ in 'money' and 'mother' is the same. Your list is wrong - you have 'mother' in both parts. Here are some words which have the \ʌ\ vowel:
fun
sun
cup
son
come
love
done
The following words have \ʌ\ in the first syllable and a schwa \ə\ in the second syllable. This is because the first syllable is stressed while the second syllable is unstressed. We use \ə\ (a schwa) for unstressed syllables - it is shorter and weaker than the vowel in the first syllable:
London /lʌndən/
mother
other
cupboard
butter
As for the different pronunciations of 'some', this rule applies to any word which is sometimes stressed and sometimes not. For example, the preposition 'to' is /tu:/, but we only ever pronounce it in this way when it's stressed ( For example, "No. I didn't say I was travelling TO London - I said I was travelling FROM London!). In all other cases, 'to' is pronounced /tə/ because it's unstressed. For example, the sentence "Come to London" is pronounced / 'kʌm tə 'lʌndən/, with the two stressed syllable in their full form /kʌm/ and /lʌn/, and the two unstressed syllables reduced to schwas / tə/ and /dən/.
In your first sentence, "Some 80% of all residents took part in the vote", the word 'some' is stressed, so it has its full pronunciation - \sʌm\
In your second sentence, the word is unstressed, so it is reduced to \səm\. That's the only reason why the pronunciation is different. It's an issue of stress rather than meaning.
I hope this explanation was helpful to you.
21 de enero de 2019
I am not a native speaker, but I suppose, that this rule is a bit outdated because my dictionary gives only transcription for "some" - /sʌm/, and one transcription for money /mʌni/ Also, accents differ and unstressed vowels can be pronounced slightly differently. For instance, some people say /ɔrɪnʤ/, others say /ɔrənʤ/.
Also, pronounciation rules are not observed in songs. I am sure that Roy Robson sings /'priti 'wo:mən/, not /"priti 'wumən"/.
21 de enero de 2019
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