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- Katarina,
English is a must, but I didn't count english as a challenge, because it's literally everywhere now, TV, games, internet, food, everything. The challenge nowadays is to avoid earning english, because if you just live your life, they will teach you at least 2 languages in 12 years school including english so you can't avoid learning english and you consume it everyday. I talk about languages which isn't taught in primary school obligatory. I talk about why are we here on italki, not for learning english I sure, english automatically consumed.
"Other languages are rarely needed if one doesn't want to live there, even without automatic translators." Now that's an interesting thing I think it's worth another topic. You think the language which must be learnt is english, and others are just for hobby. I say the same, but you don't have to learn for hobby now also, because AI translates it.0 vote(s)12 juillet 20170 - Katarina,
You speak about another thing. If you go to live another you will learn the language of course. But for 99% of the population and the people here on italki don't learn languages to live in those countries whose language they learn. They learn languages, to be able to read an interesting article, or read a manga, play a game, read thing on internet. For there people GT will translate everything more accurate then they will every translate for themselves. And skype ha a feature now which is nor perfect now, yes, but it will be. And it trnaslates immeaditaley what the other people say on the other side of the line. It will be perfect for people who must attenc a phone conference with different nationalities. If you want to learn language for living there, or for pleasure or hobby, then of course you learn it. For the other 95% who want to read manga, article, japanese game. GT will solve the issue. Like subtitles in a film. You don't need to learn japanese to watch anime which has english subtitles. You watch it in japanese with subtitles. Many people do this!!! They watch films which language they don't understand, but they can enjoy with subtitle. These people will enjoy articles, and such with GT!!! And these people can make phone conference with GT, without spend years for a language wich tehy want to make just a deal.0 vote(s)12 juillet 20170 Everybody is talking about his or her own language, that GT is nor perfect to this. But you don't understand what I'm saying. 2 years ago GT wasn't perfect for english either, but it wasn't and AI. It's an AI which learn automatically and insanely fast. It's maximum a year, then all languages will be perfect in GT. It learns of its own now, withut human interference. From day to day it learns it becomes perfect. And itt will deal slang too, because it scans the internet read the youtube comments everything. It's insanely fast. It learns when a new word is created immeditealy. Human mind can't compete with it.
Everybody is talking about. Ok but it's still not perfect. Yes, but 2 years ago it was nothing, and now it can translato to english everything. In 1 year it will be perfect, just observe the speed how it learns, how it grows from a little software to a monster software.And you don't have to carry it everywhere, you carry it now on your smatphone already. It is with you currently and everyday, and help you translate everything and will help, and will learn from you and other and became perfect.
0 vote(s)12 juillet 20170- Irena,
There is no flying car, we don't need it. It's a sci-fi novel's idea. You can drive a tesla car instead, which drive itself. And that smartphone in your pocket? 10 years ago you had a large computer, to do simple things, now you had a powerhouse in your pocket. Yes on that just a "smart phone" you can use italki in the subway, or anywhere. On that little thing you can lookup everything, restaurants, buses, you name it. That thing had an AI on it, and learn from you and others very fast. Human needs shape what technology does. Humans don't need a flying car so nobody bothers to develop it, because it won't sell, nobody wants it right now. What they want a newer iphone, a google translate which can translate everything so they don't need to learn the language of the person they want to make a business deal. The world is connected now on internet, you can order everything from anywhere, language barriers will break down and borders will disappear. There's also a translator on skype now, which can translate right away what you say, and what the other person say. It will be perfect in a year. Language is a hobby now, just like writing kanjis with brush. Ai will replace most person's job in 10 years, there will be some riots, like in the industrial revolution when they smashed the machines, but the machine won that revolution too. It can't be stopped, population will decrease, but then humans will have mor time for each other and AI will teach us, and help.0 vote(s)12 juillet 20170 - Irena,
I work as a programmer, I'm reading about these stuffs on daily level. It's an artificial intelligence, it doesn't need to use a human language it's too simple for and AI. An AI is an intelligence that develops itself, it learns on its own, and what is good for it. It can beat humans in thinking and speed from miles. "Robots" will teach us in the near future and not the other way around. AI can trade with each others and make compromises too nowadays. Here is one of the reference.
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/02/googles-ai-translation-tool-seems-to-have-invented-its-own-language/0 vote(s)12 juillet 20170 - Irena,
Thanks for the comment. Yes it's not perfect for all languages, but it's a matter of time, for the AI to learn all, less than a year. It's not true that all language goes through english. For google translate they invented a new language, that wasn't existed, and this the language all converts to. They made a language because not everythin can be translated to english, so they made artificially and the AI uses it. It translates everything to this artifical language and then to the aimed language. 2 years ago, this translator couldn't translate a simple sentence perfectly. Now it's and AI which learns, and can perfectly translate a japanese scientific article. Guess what will happen in 2 years. And skype already has a tool which can translate spoken language too. I fear italki lessons will end, when skype finishies his tool too. Language learning became a hobby for everyone, because they speak with anyone using the tools. It's not the far future, it's the near, it's only 1-2 years. I'm sad, but as a programmer I understand, that how these thing work, and it can't be stopped.0 vote(s)12 juillet 20170 - Google translate makes language learning pointless.
Hello,
Few years ago google translate wasn't perfect it was funny how it translated things. But few years ago google started to make trasnlation neural network and artificial intelligence, so the translator program now literally learns as people, but it is 10000 times faster. Today i tried out, I've been learning japanese for 2 years now. I translated a little scientific article, then translate it with google translate too, from japanese to english. The google trasnlator literally won, it made a better translation than me, it's translation was 100% perfect and enjoyable. So here it is the machine learned the language perfectly and it also able to learn more, it scans the net and learn if new words created, it can't be beaten by a person.
My question after all this what is the point of learning languages? Soon everybody will use automatic translation on business conferences too, people won't have the need to learn a language, it can trasnlate after sound also immeadiately it's faster than a person and don't make mistakes like a person. Before you comment please try out the translator first, because it's not like it was 2 years ago.12 juillet 2017342
