What is Jonathan Franzen saying in this interview? Hi everyone! I listened to the Guardian interview with Jonathan Franzen and I can't make out what he's saying at 2:43. https://www.theguardian.com/books/video/2015/aug/21/jonathan-franzen-guardian-interview-q-and-a-video "I'd like to have a candid dinner with Obama, frankly. He could tell me how weird it was to be the president and also to be (???). Can anyone help me with that? I'd appreciate it!