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How do you pronounce the ль in обстоятельство? How do you pronounce the ль in обстоятельство ( [ɐpstɐˈjætʲɪlʲstvə] as transcribed by Wikitionary. By the way, I feel the front part of the audio coming along is not absolutely identical to the transcription)? I mean I cannot distinguish the Ль sound. Could you please help me with its articulation: the place, the manner and the process of its phonation? Is it a /ʎ/ here? If yes, what are the circumstances in which /ʎ/ will be realized? Is there any allophone of /lʲ/ in Russian? What're the circumstances for it correspondingly?
12 feb. 2020 13:29
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Yes, I believe it is a voiceless allophone of a phoneme [ʎ] - soft/palatized [l] (ль). That's how we pronounce [ʎ]: https://seeingspeech.ac.uk/ipa-charts/?chart=1&datatype=3&speaker=1#location=654 . The tip and blade of your tongue contact the alveolar ridge and the hard palate anteriorly. However, in this context, there is a regressive (backward) assimilation: "st" makes "l" voiceless. We don't have voiceless [l] as a phoneme, that's why we don't distinguish them in a transcription. It seems close enough to this sound: https://seeingspeech.ac.uk/ipa-charts/?chart=1&datatype=3&speaker=1#location=106 . You just need to put your tongue in a [ʎ]-position and do not use your vocal cords. Good luck! upd: However, "ль" is voiceless here only when you pronounce it quickly. Actually, you don't have to learn how to pronounce it voiceless.
18 februari 2020
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First, touch the part of your tongue behind its tip to the roof of your mouth (that should be the only part touching). Then try to pronounce the sounds L with a very brief Y following immediately after (zero time gap).
13 februari 2020
I guess it is less voiced than it usually is because of the subsequent "ST". My tongue is just in the same place where it is when I say "лес" or "лифт", but the sound is really short
12 februari 2020
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