[Gedeactiveerde gebruiker]
Why cant I make friends with Japanese people, why do 99% of them not want to help me? I am thinking of giving up learning Japanese, not because I dont like it but just because it is so difficult to get anyone to help me or talk to me. I have added so many Japanese people on here but bar the same couple of people every time..Thank you to those people esp chihiro, no help is forthcoming. The few Japanese that I have been able to get skype or msn details from never talk to me, and I have had several say, sorry your Japnese is not as good as mine, I dont want to talk to you or help you, or I was only looking for a girlfriend, dont want to help you with Japanese. I try to be nice to them say hi to them a few times etc but no one seems interested at all, no one ever chooses to say hi to me and chat. It is getting very disheartening, I will never improve this way. and as for your Japanese is not as good as mine...wth? How can it be I've not been learning long and Im not Japanese! I dont want to believe the Japanese are an unhelpful race but i look at say my Chinese questions, i always get so many answers, when I ask Japanese questions, maybe one or two answers, always from the same people ( bless them esp as two of them are not native Japanese themselves) and I wonder why more Japanese do not answer questions make notebook corrections on here, it seems no one really wants to help. As for talking to people, am I doing something wrong I ask myself, what do the Japanese like to talk about? How can I get them to make friends with me? I really hope I dont offend anyone with this this question as there are some lovely, helpful Japanese people Im sure, Im just getting so frustrated though, I want to learn, I want to improve but how can I and what is the point if I'mm always going to be talking to myself?! Again a huge thanks to the people that do try to help me, I really appreciate itBata I think you are being very picky, sarcastic and childish! Im sorry you think it is a terrible question but Im sorry there is no harm in trying to gain an insight as to why it might be happening to gain a better insight into a different culture and thier way of life, thinking etc.and infact shows willingness to hear these thoughts and ideas, with the desire to try and remedy things, rather than remaining a frustrated, uninformed ignoramus!
20 sep. 2010 22:12
Antwoorden · 107
12
The Japanese are a very strange bunch. Very strange. With all but a few exceptions, they are socially inadequate on the international stage. Sad but true.
20 september 2010
8
I've lived in Japan and can offer my perspective on trying to speak Japanese. It's not that Japanese people are unhelpful, I think they are very friendly and often helpful in general. The bigger issue from my experience was that some Japanese people think it strange that you are learning their language. And if you get beyond a basic level, there is often a bit of distrust in you - maybe it's because you are breaking too much into Japanese life. This is just my opinion, but I think that some Japanese consider their language to be part of their in-group culture and do not want others to really understand it. Maybe based on the long history of Japan being isolated from other countries. Some Japanese do truly enjoy you speaking their language though, so don't give up.
21 september 2010
7
It is the question about the culture, I don't know why Mr. alucky is so up sad about it. 99% is a very high percentage, if I were Ms. Elizabeth, I would ask the same question too. Fortunately, I have never deal with any non-English speaking people. It looks like that the Japanese can not read English. You may notice that the English speaking people such as Mr. James 1, Mr. Brianhabla, and Mr. Wozitoya, their answers are corresponding to the question which is related to the culture. The question is written in English, I am trying to interprete Ms. Elizabeth's intent in her question. In response to Ms. Elizabeth's question, the problem is appearing on misunderstanding, the language barrier.
22 september 2010
6
First of all, please kindly bear with me, should I have said something that makes anyone not pleasant. In particular, I have no interest to perform unnecessary arguments with the original question poster, because I already knew her personality. Well, in my personally point of view, this question was somehow considered as "racially biased", should it not be deemed as offensive. My arguments are as follows: 1) The original question poster wanted to express her unpleasant (or frustrated) feeling through the learning of Japanese language. Nevertheless, all of us need to bear in mind that this (italki) is a free platform for language exchanges. Nobody owes responsibility to help the others. Everyone offers help solely under their own will. We surely may appreciate any kind of help, but to blame on someone (or on some particular race/nationality, as stated in this question) who does not offer help is simply not appropriate. 2) Albeit a frustration in learning a particular language, there is no necessity to states any negative comments against solely the people native in that particular language (in this case, the Japanese people, or the ones with Japanese nationalities, as I presume). I believe that there are always some foreigners who are very good in Japanese, or people that have a Japanese ancestry, who can as well help the others with the Japanese language. In other words, alternative options are already available, but the original question poster did not carefully consider them, and rather put blames onto the Japanese natives once she did not receive sufficient help. I honestly cannot agree this kind of act. In my point of view, as long as the concept is correct, one should learn it enthusiastically, regardless from whom such concept was given. 3) From where does this 99% of Japanese people (who are described as not willing to help the original question poster) come? Did the original question poster do an intensive survey to obtain such result, or did she only state it recklessly (as a sort of expressing her personal frustration through the language learning process)? Unless such figure was found by systematic and reliable studies, solely stating it recklessly would give not only a misleading concept to the general audience, but also a hard or even an irritating feeling to the group of people being blamed. Therefore, although I am not a Japanese, I understand how a typical Japanese may feel through reading the question, which resulted in some fierce or overreacted arguments. Unfortunately, once the question was posed, it was not editable. Therefore, my personal suggestion is, everyone needs to think twice before posting any disputable questions. Hopefully, any fierce or overreacted arguments may be terminated, once it is understood that the original question was simply not appropriately posted. Ciao.
25 september 2010
6
sorry for my misunderstanding !
22 september 2010
Meer weergeven
Heb je je antwoorden nog steeds niet gevonden?
Schrijf je vragen op en laat de moedertaalsprekers je helpen!