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Tho
We don't need no education... One thing I never quite understood in the English language was the double negation. "don't need no", "ain't no", "don't have no" and so on. Personally I don't like to use it, but is it even correct to do so?

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Currently (in English), double negation is considered non-standard negation (it supposedly has a positive meaning) on the basis of the fact that -1 X -1 = +1. Actually, this is a relatively recent concept in English, which a mathematician somehow managed to foist upon teachers of. In fact, languages are about evenly divided on how they handle this issue. For most of the last 1000 years, double negation was considered correct English, used by the prestige dialect speakers to emphasize a strong negative (as in Spanish, for example). Mandarin takes the double negative = positive to an even higher level than English. So, it really depends on who’s making the rules at the moment. For now, I’d say stick to the use of single negation. In the song, it's used ironically. The song is from the UK, where double negation is at least as common as in the US.
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Thomas, you are correct. It is not correct to use double negatives (DN). if you want to sound like an intelligent person do not use double negatives like the examples you listed. There are exceptions, but exceptions are rare, sound confusing - even to English listeners - and are usually not necessary. People who use DN sound stupid. When Pink Floyd sang, "We don't need no education," this was an example of irony ( a little funny) because the words sound stupid, so maybe they really DO need education. make sense? Mick Jagger "can't get no satisfaction," either, but he is rich so maybe he does not need to care about sounding smart. :-)
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I agree with Phil. Double negatives go back a long way, and today they are every bit as common in the UK as they are in the US. Go into any pub in London or Manchester, and you'll hear plenty of people saying "I ain't got no..." . It's always been part of the vernacular of the British Isles and probably always will be. There's nothing particularly American about double negatives. Is "I ain't got no.."correct"? No, not strictly speaking, but it is appropriate in many situations. Popular music, for a start. And even the most educated of native speakers will sometimes slip in a vernacular "ain't no/nothing/never" for comic effect or to give a certain emphasis, for example to stress the simplicity or obviousness of a situation. It's very subtle, though, and I wouldn't recommend that a non-native speaker try this unless they are very proficient in the nuances of English. That said, there are situations where a double negative is correct. For example, "Oh, please go to the party. I wouldn't want you not to go just because of me. I'll be fine at home, honestly."
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It's not correct. It's a colloquial nonsense that is more common in the United States. Peace.
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I slip into the vernacular quite often. Ain't go no qualms about it.

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