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Why does the russian "о" sound sometimes like "a" and sometimes like "o"? + Russian famous singers Hello! My name is Alba and I am from Spain, I started to learn Russian by myself and I found something that is weird to my mind, I don't know if it's only my problem..

The point is, when should I pronounce "о" like "a" and like "o"? For example, the word "говорите" sounds like "gobaritye" to me.

Moreover, I would like to know some Russian pop music singers names.

Thank you very much!!!

7. Dez. 2017 10:09
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Hi! As I know, some Russian 'o' sounds like 'a', all the time when 'o' isn't stressed. So if 'o' is stressed it sounds like 'o', but if it unstressed in a word, then 'o' sounds like 'a'. Have a nice day!
7. Dezember 2017
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We just don´t pay attention to it, because it is meaningless, we prefer to talk faster. Such 'o' is not exactly 'a', it's an eaten 'o'. We do not try to pronounce it literally. We do not pronounce 'объём' like 'абъём', even if 'o' is not stressed here.
7. Dezember 2017
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And the problem is not about the "o-a" distinction only. The same happens to the unstressed "и", for example; personally, I think that the difference is not that obvious as it is for "о-а", but still. E.g. the word "зерно" ("grain") is actually pronounced as "зирно". If we know how to pronounce it but are not sure about the spelling, sometimes we can check the unstressed vowel by recalling other words with the same root morpheme in which the vowel becomes stressed ("з'ёрна" (plural) for "зерн'о", "г'овор" (the noun) for "говор'ите" etc.), and sometimes we just have to memorise the right spelling (for "корова" there's no "cheaty" option). 

What can you do to make it simpler? Well, you have to memorise both spelling and pronunciation, that's for sure. Russian language teachers in schools use dictations; you can try to use different mobile applications - just make sure that there's an audio part there as well so you can compare the spelling and the pronunciation of a word. Keep in mind that an unstressed vowel in the word's root morpheme usually doesn't sound like it's "supposed" to. Actually, it comes with practice, and now that you know about it, it's got to get easier. Good luck! :)

7. Dezember 2017
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Oh, that's a very common problem, actually. I believe that every Russian language textbook devotes at least one section to the correct spelling of unstressed vowels in words' root morphemes (not sure if it's a correct translation... in Russian it's called "правописание безударной гласной в корне слова").

However, for poor Russian children it's usually the other way around: why do we write "о" when it's clear that we say "а"? The wrong spelling of the word "cow" ("карова" instead of "корова") is a paradigmatic example of children's misspelling. Russian is not "phonetic", and that's a problem for those who (a) don't read in Russian a lot (e.g. little children) or (b) don't speak Russian a lot (e.g. foreign students).

I totally disagree with Vasiliy, it's definitely NOT better "to pronounce like it was written". No, almost nobody says "GO-VO-RI-TE", in reality it's more like "GA-VA-RI-T`E": the third syllable is stressed; the first syllable is shortened. To say it with two o's is as strange as to pronounce the word "speak" as "SPE-AK". Trust me, you don't want to say it this way.

7. Dezember 2017
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For you, as a beginner, it's much easier to not focus on this. It is better to pronounce like it was written.

This nuance it's like to learn Cockney British accent instead of learning English itself.

In your case, for native speakers both options acceptable.

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When you hear lots of 'o' it does not looks like Georgian. It's called "okan'e" (оканье).  On the other hand  - lots of 'a' instead of 'o' - called "akan'e" (аканье).

7. Dezember 2017
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