Hassan
I admit I'm a loser
How do you speak English this way? I have been learning it for more than 4 years, but I cannot speak a single sentence like this. In the end, I admit that I failed to learn this language and how I wish I could speak it, and that was and was my first goal in this life, but I finally felt very disappointed. I want any advice from its native speakers, thank you in advance😊
14 mar 2020 03:22
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1. Your written English seems pretty good. Arabic and English are entirely unrelated, so you shouldn’t expect to be fluent in three months (to quote a popular travel blogger). It seems to me you’re doing fine for just four years of study.

2. You need to identify specifically what your weak points are, and address them.

3. Do not take advice from native speakers — most native speakers have no idea how they learned their language, much less how an adult would do so. Take advice from a non-native speaker who has learned a language (or languages) to a reasonably good level.
14 marzo 2020
6
@ Hassan

From what you have written your English seems quite good. You possibly have a better command of grammar and a bigger vocabulary than some who have been learning for much longer. Maybe your English is better than you realise?

I suspect that your problem with speaking may be a mental one. It can be difficult to overcome shyness and inhibition to <em>speak</em> a foreign language, rather than reading or listening, particularly when faced with a native speaker.

My advice would be to either to take a few lessons here so you can practice with a teacher or to find a language partner who you can practice with. Neither of these need to be native speakers, indeed someone <em>who has learned English </em>or <em>is learning</em> it (like you), will probably be in a much better position to help you.

With a basic understanding of grammar and vocabulary, even less than you seem to have, you can still make meaningful conversation. Just try to take it one step at a time. Practising the other important skills, listening, reading and writing, will also help you greatly when you come to speaking,

Learning any language is a marathon, not a sprint.   

14 marzo 2020
4
Just speak without thinking
Make sentences quickly even if it was wrong , record your voice and find d out your mistakes
And talk to yourself in mirror
I did it and I speak better now :)
Good luck
14 marzo 2020
3
Hassan, there's nothing much wrong with your written English, but that said, speaking is a different ballgame altogether.

I had learned German off and on for about three decades from books, tapes and later with apps, not to mention a couple of trips to Germany. I could still barely speak until I found my German exchange partner. We spoke fairly regularly for over 18 months. Initially I could barely say a couple of words but in a couple of months my spoken fluency improved remarkably. Now I'm forgetting some of it because I'm out of practice again.

The same was the case with Spanish. I learned for over a year but still couldn't speak anything. Then I started taking conversation classes here and also found my steady exchange partner. I can now express most common things in Spanish, but I still have problems with grammatically correct expressions and vocabulary, especially for complex topics.

On the plus side I have no hesitation in speaking whatever comes to my mind, whether right or wrong. I am neither shy nor worried about being laughed at, and I have never met anyone who laughed at me for trying. I have also never met anyone who did not understand me, despite my limited vocabulary and imperfect grammar. Worst come worst, I can always default to a few English sentences or gestures.

It is simple. You have to speak in order to be able to speak. It's a skill that only comes with practice, and it goes without saying that your initial experience will be like me. How best you can do it and with whom, depends on you and your specific circumstances. One thing is sure, though. The more you practice and the more mistakes your are willing to make, the better it gets. There are no exceptions to this.
14 marzo 2020
3
Replies here are focusing on writing, but your trouble is with speaking English, correct? I'm in a similar boat (similar situation), where I can read and write much better than I can speak in my target language. Far from perfect, but still better since I can practice that more easily. And I think you can take advice from anybody, native speaker or not. In the end, you have to discover what actually works for you.

I recently got some advice, which I haven't quite put into use yet, but may be useful. I was reminded about the so-called Pareto rule. You may see greater initial improvement if you focus on fixing just 20% of your problems. But then you'd probably want a trained language teacher to help identify those problems. It's not always easy to evaluate yourself objectively. While just talking and random chitchat is fun, it might not get you any closer to your goals.

It's a little gimmicky, but I heard about this concept of "language islands", attributed to the author Boris Shekhtman. But I think it's something we tend to do anyway. The basic idea is to develop fluency in a few common topics instead of trying to get fluent in the whole language at once. That way it's easy to have some kind of a conversation, and most importantly - keep it going.

Somewhat random link, but you can find more details elsewhere or in the book itself:

It's faking fluency in a way. Depending on who you ask and on what topic, my spoken Polish ranges from good, OK, to terrible. Maybe the people saying "good" are just being nice to me, but I have enough phrases that I can speak with some fluidity. Meanwhile in other daily situations, I struggle to express something simple when speaking, since talking to another person isn't the same as writing an essay at them, and their reply may throw me off (confuse me).
14 marzo 2020
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