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“the squalid child” - for native speakers of English only I’m working on a poem in English and am considering writing “the squalid child”. I’m aware it’s not normal to use the word “squalid” about a person - one uses it about a place (dirty) or about activities (immoral). Does it sound completely odd to the ear of a native speaker? Does anyone know one or more words that would have the same meanings as “squalid”, but could be used about a person? Thanks a lot for your help! (this question will not have a best answer - all opinions are welcome) UPDATE: What I like about “squalid” is the fact that it can both mean “dirty” and “immoral” and that it opens up for the possibility that the child lacks moral standards. The problem for me with “squalid” is not that it’s a negative word, but that it’s not used about people. Also, if “squalid” has some kind of sexual connotation I don’t want it to be associated with a child.
15 сент. 2016 г., 16:21
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In my opinion, "squalid" sounds strange for people. Because it's a negative word for an environment, it would also sound negative for a person, and especially for a child. There is poetic license but I can't imagine it ever sounding good for a child. If you posted the whole line, then perhaps some other words could come to mind. Jerry's options sound good.
15 сентября 2016 г.
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How about dirty, filthy, slovenly, unclean And yes, it does sound out of place to describe a person as squalid to my ear. That's my .02 worth. I agree with Sara, the meaning is clear.
15 сентября 2016 г.
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It wouldn't be unprecedented. A Google search of Project Gutenberg turns up: "I saw a livid face, the face as of a man long drowned,--bloated, bleached, seaweed tangled in its dripping hair; and at her feet lay a form as of a corpse; and beside the corpse there cowered a child, a miserable, squalid child, with famine in its cheeks and fear in its eyes."--Edward Bulwer-Lytton, "The Haunted and the Haunters." Of course someone is going to wisecrack about Bulwer-Lytton, because of the Bulwer-Lytton Fiction Contest; for some reason, one of his opening lines, "It was a dark and stormy night..." is thought to be horrible (I don't think it is) and has become a kind of joke. A Google Books search turns up many examples of the phrase "squalid child." Most of them are from the nineteenth century, but "squalid" itself is a somewhat old-fashioned word. An impressive number of them are anthologies containing "The Haunted and the Hunters" so it must be considered a good story.
15 сентября 2016 г.
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Yes i agree with both Sara and Jerry, it sounded a bit odd. Having read the phrase a couple times I think it sounds better now. I think filthy or grimy could be used here.
15 сентября 2016 г.
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It does sound odd, yes, but I think people will understand what you mean. Plus-- it's poetry, which is meant to be creative and different.
15 сентября 2016 г.
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