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Jessicamessica
Hello everyone!
"That’s a good Kate’s idea."
Why can't I say like this?
Thank you.
2023年1月19日 12:33
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In my opinion:
"a Kate's idea" is not a grammatically valid noun-phrase because the indefinite article ("a", "an") can't precede the possessive form of a proper noun
Generally speaking a noun phrase commencing with the possessive form of a proper noun is equivalent to a noun phrase starting with the definite article ("the") in the sense that you are (to an extent) assuming that the speaker can identify the thing with reference to the noun-phrase.
The correct singular form when you are *not* making that assumption is:
indefinite article ("a" or "an") + noun + "of" + possessive form of proper noun
e.g. "a friend of Kate's"
For the plural:
noun (plural) + "of" + possessive form of proper noun
e.g. friends of Kate's
A similar pattern happen with pronouns:
"my book" has a similar quality of definiteness to "the book"
"a book of mine" has a similar quality of indefiniteness to "a book"
2023年1月20日
2
Because the meaning of "Kate's idea" is :"the idea of Kate"
Then as if you are saying: "That's a good the idea of Kate"
And this doesn't fit because after the adjective good musn't be a "the"
2023年1月19日
1
Kate's idea is a great one.
I like Kate's idea.
That's a great idea. Kate thought of it.
We owe this good idea to Kate.
That's Kate's idea. I think it's a good one.
From Kate, I heard this great idea.
I don't know if it is correct or not, but everyone says:
That's a good idea of Kate's.
It's probably more correct to say:
That's a good idea of Kate.
Your question of why one can't say "that's a good Kate's idea" is a good one. My answer is "I don't know, but you can't". You can't put "Kate's" between a determiner and a noun. All of these are illegal:
the Kate's idea
a Kate's idea
this Kate's idea
that Kate's idea
some Kate's idea
any Kate's idea, etc. ....
Instead, you have to say "the idea of Kate", "this idea of Kate", etc...
2023年1月19日
1
This question really got me thinking. I think the answer is something like:
You can't mix a possesive and other adjectives using this construction.
That's John's dog. That's a good dog. (CORRECT)
That's a good John's dog. (INCORRECT)
Part of the reason may be that the article applies to both, and in that case it is incorrect.
That's a good idea. (correct)
That's a Kate's idea (incorrect).
2023年1月20日
1
Hello! Not sure what you want to say. If you are saying Kate had a good idea to Kate you should say: "Kate, that's a good idea!" Or "What a good idea, Kate!"
If you are talking to someone else about Kate's idea you can say: "Kate had a good idea" or "That's Kate's good idea".
You can't say "That's a good Kate's idea" for the following reasons:
First, "Kate" is in the middle of your sentence so we don't know her role in the action. The expression "That's a good idea" has a subject (That), verb ('s=is) and an object (a good idea). But what about Kate?
In your original sentence you have put "Kate+'s+idea". indicating that Kate is part of the object of the sentence. But "good" and "idea" have to be together because they are an adjective and a noun that interact with each other: it's not Kate that's good, but her idea.
To express the sentence correctly you should write: subject, verb, person, complement. That (subject) 's/is (verb) Kate's (person) good idea (complement). You can also write a different sentence with this order: subject, verb, complement, person. That (subject) 's/is (verb) a good idea (complement), Kate (person).
So you can write the sentence in two ways: That's a good idea, Kate! (if you are talking to Kate) and "That's Kate's good idea" (talking to someone else).
Hope to helps!
2023年1月19日
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