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Benny
Are these phrases sarcastic to you?
<ol><li>Well Done</li><li>Nice Try</li><li>Surprise, Surprise</li><li>Fine</li><li>Ha Ha</li><li>Good Luck with That</li><li>Yeah, Right</li></ol>
The other day, @Su.Ki. brought to my attention the phrase "Thanks a lot".
So, I would like to check with native speakers of English if you considered these sarcastic,
Are they without a doubt sarcastic or it depends on the tone/facial expression?
Do you have other stuffs like this?
For me, these are things that you can't learn from classroom so your opinions are highly appreciated.
2019年7月23日 12:52
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Just to clarify:
"Thanks a lot" isn't always sarcastic. While native speakers often use it to mean "Thanks for nothing" or "I wish you hadn't done that", this isn't always the case. It's perfectly possible to say "Thanks a lot" in a sincere way.
Likewise, all of the above phrases could be used either in a genuine way or in a sarcastic manner, depending on the context. Stress, intonation, tone of voice, speed of delivery (for example, lengthening a syllable or lowering the tone to show mock boredom or frustration) and facial expression (smirking, eye-rolling) all give clues as to the speaker's attitude. It's how and when we say these phrases that is important, rather than the words themselves.
NB Remember that the noun 'stuff' is uncountable: it has no plural form.
2019年7月24日
5
@ Miriam
How about 'Thanks very much'? That seems to be a logical midway point between 'Thank you very much' and 'Thanks'.
2019年7月24日
5
@Su.Ki
Ever since you wrote about „thanks a lot“, I don’t dare to use it anymore. Before I thought that it’s the perfect compromise between „thank you very much“ and „thanks“. „Thank you very much“ seems so formal to me, „thanks“ not sincere enough. I’m really in trouble now. Whenever I type „thanks“ to a friend I feel a little bit bad about it but I wouldn’t like them feeling bad or having to tell themselves that I’m a non-native because of writing „thanks a lot“. :(
2019年7月24日
5
It's not right to judge the phrases just by seeing them typed out. If you heard someone say it to you you'd be able to tell the inflection of their voice.
2019年7月23日
3
This thread seems settled but I'd like to contradict almost the entire thing: Except in the cases of "Well done" and "Yeah, right", I would say that all of them have some sense of irony or sarcasm to them. "Well done" and "Yeah, right" depend on tone of voice and context.
One major point of contention: not all of them are inherently hostile. Things can be sarcastic or ironic without actually being hostile.
As for "Thanks a lot" I agree that it could be non-sarcastic and non-hostile, but I deliberately avoid using it because of how common the sarcastic use is. If I am trying to be authentic I say "Thanks". If I am trying to be effusive, I say "Thank you very much". "Thank you a lot" sounds fine to me, especially with a pause: "Thank you, a lot". It's also quite common to add "I mean it" to the end of any thanking phrase, especially if one says "Thanks a lot. I mean it." which subverts the common sarcasm.
2019年7月24日
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