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「これじゃダメじゃん！」の「じゃ」
I am watching this video and at 0:23 the ojisan said これじゃダメじゃん！
I have learnt じゃas the casual form of saying では.
In this case, is this also the same? I even came across sentence ending with じゃ but I don't have any example on hand now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z7BkFV81dc
2012年6月29日 13:37
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As you say, じゃ can be the casual form of では. For instance, the forst じゃ in your sentence. So it comes to これではだめじゃん。
じゃ is also one of the sentence ending particles. Often it is used when a old people speak. They put じゃ in the end of a sentence.
2012年6月29日
1) The じゃ in これじゃ is a colloquial, collapsed form of では.
では, as you might know, consists of the case particle (格助詞) 「で」 and the adverbial particle (副助詞), 「contrastive は」.
2) じゃん in だめじゃん is a colloquial, shortened form of 「ではないか？」 So, here again, じゃ in だめじゃん！ is a collapsed form of では. (ではないか is shortened into →じゃないか？ditto→じゃない？ditto→じゃん？) 「だめではないか？」literally means "Isn't it useless/hopeless/impossible/no good?", practically meaning you think "it's no good", =「だめだよ」！
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The sentence ending じゃ is a colloquial, collapsed form of だ.
だ/じゃ are NOT sentence-ending particles(終助詞). they are "copulas"(断定の助動詞「だ」「です」), the casual versions of です.
E.g.: The「だ」in 「君の絵はきれいだ」is a copula. You can also say it as 「君の絵はきれいです」.
The 「ね」「よ」「な」etc. in「君の絵はきれいですね」「君の絵はきれいですよ」「君の絵はきれいだな」are the sentence-ending particles.
2012年6月30日
am referring to the first jya.
2012年6月30日
I can see two 「じゃ」in "これ「じゃ」だめ「じゃ」ん！", so which じゃ are you referring to?
2012年6月29日
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