Yes, Brian. You have to educate me on the Shanghai system, though I have spent time in Shanghai. I find that in some areas the grid reference works well, e.g. in the Bund area, and along Huai Hai Zhong Lu (which was the old Avenue Joffre in the French Concession), but in some instances, where there are many sub-streets called alleys (比如,第3里第4弄), the alleys sometimes run like a labyrinth. By the way, though I am not a supporter of colonialism, I wish they had kept the old French names, rue Molière, etc.