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Dominik
Por mim or para mim?
Hi my Portuguese friends what is difference between para mim and por mim when I should use option with por and where with para
thanks!
Apr 10, 2020 5:31 PM
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Hi,
In Brazilian Portuguese we use the pronoun of the straight case ( caso reto ) like: Eu, tu, ele (a), nĂłs, vĂłs, eles (as) them as we refer to the subject of the sentence. The tonic oblique pronouns ( oblĂquos tĂŽnicos ) like: mim, ti, ele (a), nĂłs, vĂłs, eles (as) play the role ( work like the role ) of an object and appear after a preposition: para mim, de mim, por mim, e assim por diante.
e.g.
a) Ela trouxe o presente para eu desembrulhar.
b) Ela trouxe o presente para mim.
I think that I understand your question, and I hope that I can help answered it. But I think your right question would be: Para eu ou Para mim
The words por and pĂŽr, with and without caret (com e sem acento circunflexo), exist in the Portuguese language and are correct. However, their meanings are different and should therefore be used in different situations.
"Por" is a preposition, synonymous with: through, for, during, upon..
(Por é uma preposição, sinÎnima de: através de, para, durante, mediante)
e.g.
por aqui;
por ali;
por favor;
por isso;
por enquanto
"PĂŽr" is a verb, synonymous with: put, put, insert, fix
(PĂŽr Ă© um verbo, sinĂŽnimo de: colocar, botar, inserir, fixar)
e.g.
pĂŽr a mesa;
pĂŽr do sol;
pĂŽr a mĂŁo no bolso;
pĂŽr a culpa em vocĂȘ;
pÎr os pés no sofå;
When to use Por ?
The preposition for, written without caret, has its origin in the Latin word "pro" and is used with different meanings, in various expressions.
1.1. It can mean through, for, in favor of, during, until, around and in reason of, as well as indicate means or mode, periodicity in time, price, exchange and purpose, among others.
1.2. (Pode significar através de, para, a favor de, durante, até, por volta de e em razão de, bem como indicar meio ou modo, periodicidade no tempo, preço, troca e finalidade, entre outros).
Examples with the preposition Por:
Por que motivo vocĂȘ estĂĄ mentindo ?
Passe o açucareiro, por favor !
VocĂȘ vai por esse caminho ?
April 10, 2020
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Thank you for answers! <3
April 10, 2020
2
Por mim = For me
Exemplo: She did the research for me = Ela fez a pesquisa por mim (which means: I was expected to do it, but she did it instead, as a favor)
Para mim = To me
Exemplo: She handed the research to me = Ela entregou a pesquisa para mim (Which means: when it was done she brought it to me)
April 10, 2020
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Hi, Dominik! How are you?
"Por mim" meaning that you did somenthing without help from anyone else, like "I made the whole meal all by myself".
"Para mim" meaning that someone did something for you, like "my friends made the whole meal for me".
April 10, 2020
When to use PĂŽr ?
1.1. The verb to PĂŽr, written with a circumflex accent, has its origin in the Latin word "ponere". It has several meanings, referring to the act of placing, depositing, supporting, hanging, including, placing, fixing, assigning, disposing, applying, putting on, touching and infusing, among others.
1.2. (O verbo pÎr, escrito com acento circunflexo, tem sua origem na palavra em latim <em style="color: rgb(64, 64, 64);">ponere</em>. Apresenta diversos significados, referindo-se ato de colocar, depositar, apoiar, pendurar, incluir, botar, fixar, atribuir, dispor, aplicar, calçar, tacar e infundir, entre outros)
Examples with the verb PĂŽr:
VocĂȘ pode pĂŽr o cobertor no armĂĄrio ?
Pare de pĂŽr ĂĄgua no copo porque vai derramar.
Não me consigo pÎr de pé !
Por e pĂŽr: acento diferencial
The New Orthographic Agreement, which came into force in January 2009, did not change these two words. It was already written like that and we should continue writing like that.
The caret acts as a differential accent, being written to facilitate the differentiation of the verb "pĂŽr" and the preposition "por".
Although some differential accents have been abolished in the current orthographic agreement, the existing caret in the verb "pĂŽr" must be maintained.
April 10, 2020
Dominik
Language Skills
English, Polish, Portuguese
Learning Language
English, Portuguese
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