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The simple fact why it's difficult to find a native English speaker to be your language partner

Worldwide:

1,500 million people are learning English (That's 1.5 billion if we use American terminology)

82 million are learning French

30 million are learning Chinese

14.5 million are learning German

14.5 million are learning Spanish

8 million are learning Italian

3 million are learning Japanese

(Source: https://www.fluentu.com/blog/most-studied-languages/)

Let this sink in for a moment. Japanese is the seventh most popular language, but the difference with English is brutal. It's 500 to 1!

Now, these numbers are for the whole planet, regardless of what their native languages are. Now, if we focus only in the US, the country with the most native English speakers, the numbers of those learning any foreign language at all are far, far, smaller. In the US, in higher education there are:

790K people learning Spanish

197K people learning French, 

109K learning ASL

86K learning German

71K learning Italian

66K learning Japanese

61K Chinese and

32K Arabic.

So, to say it bluntly, from a simple supply and demand point of view, it's really, really easy for a native English speaker to find a language partner who speaks ANY language, because pretty much the entire planet is learning English. But for native speakers of any language outside the ones I have just listed above, it's going to be much harder to find a language partner who is a native English speaker. So you really need to do your homework when looking for a partner. You can't simply send a few random messages saying "Hi" and then complain that nobody replies. Just by looking at the numbers above you can guess that native English speakers receive tons of messages and requests. You need to try harder. Here are some suggestions:

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14 Thg 10 2018 17:02
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The thing is, it’s not really a numbers game. As Miriam and Ike have said, if a learner participates in the community, they’ll be successful. The truth is that the vast majority of learners can’t be bothered to make a real post. Of those, most can’t be bothered to say “thanks” after receiving help. Learners who do make real posts, do make real comments on others’ threads, and do say “thank you” will have all the language partners they need. I’ve witnessed it many times — no matter your native language, dialect, location, skin color, or any of the other nonsense that people like to blame for their own lack of effort.

14 tháng 10 năm 2018
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@Yoko

But if you're flooded with "hi" and the people don't have anything significant to say afterwards? I'm not a native English speaker but receive quite a lot of "hi" messages and for me it means "I haven't read your profile and I don't care what kind of person you are as long as you teach me English". In the beginning I replied to every single message and actually even now I often reply to "hi" messages with "Thanks for contacting me. Have you read my profile?" (which btw says that I'm not available for language exchange, random chat nor voice/video calls and that I'm not teaching English). I have a job, a family and I'm neither qualified nor interested in teaching others English. I hardly have time to practise my own target languages. I know I sound incredibly rude to you by saying this but on the other hand I do help a lot of language learners for free, I corrected several hundred German notebook entries. Please take into account that users here have lives outside of italki and that not responding to "hi" messages doesn't mean that they're rude and not willing to help others. I find it rude to not even care to read the profile and just expect that others teach them in return for nothing.

14 tháng 10 năm 2018
9

I don't think that the this could be actually the only and main reason. 

You as a tutor here on Italki, you probably get a lot of native speakers of English that pay you to have conversations, right? There are many spanish speaking people that would love to have a native english speaker to talk to, but why these english native speakers would prefer to pay someone when they have a lot of free opportunities? 

Everyday many Brazilians post here on the forums that they're looking for native english speakers, people with free time, people with true willing to help but they get zero responses yet a lot of portuguese tutors and teachers like me are being paid by native english speakers to have informal conversations. 

In my opinion is that people don't really know how to make a language exchange happen. Still the human being  in general lacks the knowledge of how to deal with another human being. Many people simply don't know what to talk to, how to organise the time, how to be productive during a conversation, how to come up with a topic to not let the conversation die after five minutes, how to engage the other one to continue talking and how to be interesting for the other person and vice versa. That's why people prefer paying tutors, because they don't have to share their time, let's face it, people have their moments of selfishness. When you are paying, you expect the tutor to organise everything and come up with the topics or to know how to lead the conversation. It's less stressful. 



14 tháng 10 năm 2018
8

Here is my personal experience. I'm not a native English speaker but I teach English here on italki. I'm learning Italian. A native Italian speaker got in touch with me shortly after I joined italki. He sent me a considerably long message in English (which must have taken him a tremendous amount of time to write) and the same message in Italian. This caught my interest. We agreed on a date and time and had our first Skype conversation. It turned out he'd bought a textbook just so he could help me with my Italian. I've been doing language exchange with him for a while now and he keeps emphasizing he really wants me to make progress. In return, I'm doing my best to help him improve his English. What I'm trying to say is:

1. He was willing to compromise and contact a non-native speaker.

2. He was willing to make an effort. He invested time and even money in this.

3. He has been acting selflessly from day one.

So to address the "hi" issue, there's nothing wrong with saying "hi" to people. But who in their right mind would choose a "hi" person over someone I just described?

14 tháng 10 năm 2018
8

@Miguel ELE (雷明): I know, and that comment was not meant for you actually. I was being sarcastic, yes, but in real life, if we go to someone and say "hi", just one "hi", not some super long self introduction or whatsoever, if that person doesn't hi back, we'll very likely consider them rude. But somehow you're taking the no response for granted and blaming the person who stood out to try first, for they did not try hard enough, just because there's more non-native English learners than native English speakers, who as you claimed benefit from their privilege.

And in a lot of ways some people hand over that privilege of selection to them cos they ONLY want to practice with native speakers. I've encountered people who are like "sure, you speak pretty well English, but I'd prefer to talk with a native." For these people, I could do nothing but wish them luck kissing native speakers' asses.

I personally take italki as a community where everyone could engage in language learning the way they want with enough respect for others' approach. In Chinese we have a saying, "人之患在好为人师", the trouble with some people is that they're way too fond of being someone else's preacher. If people want to start by just casually saying hi, then let them be.

14 tháng 10 năm 2018
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