Mandarin tones Hi all.I am a bit confuse with the tones.We have 1st,2nd,3rd and 4th tones.Does these tones really applied and normal conversation or only applicable when we say the words in isolation?

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Mandarin tones

Hi all.

I am a bit confuse with the tones.

We have 1st,2nd,3rd and 4th tones.

Does these tones really applied and normal conversation or only applicable when we say the words in isolation?

Feel awkward to follow the tones when we speak with several words, but it is normal if we say the word individually.

Secondly,is there a rule where we pronounce the 3rd tone not as low and high pitch,but nornal pitch?

Thirdly, how to learn the written chinese since we need to memorise the symbols.

18 Thg 04 2020 20:32

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Yes, the tones really do occur in daily conversations. Just a little bit less to increase the speed, but they are all still there. Often tones are even more important than pronunciation. For example, people in the south of China often pronounce 'shi' more like a 'si'. When you would hear the pronunciation of (four,四,sì）but it has the tone of (ten,十shí), so you would hear sí, it almost always means 'ten', even though the pronunciation would sound like 'four'.

The best tip I ever got is from the best Chinese teacher I ever had: exaggerate your tones, way more than any other Chinese would do. Your tones will become less pronounced after you will start talking more fluently. If you start with ok tones, you'll end up with no tones at all. Start with extreme tones and you'll end up with Chinese :).Do not underestimated the importance of tones.

Good luck with your journey of learning Mandarin Chinese. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to hit me up!

18 tháng 4 năm 2020

Tone is very important in Chinese learning. I am a native Chinese speaker. When I was a child, we learned to speak Mandarin from learning Pinyin and the tone of Pinyin. Moreover, in our daily conversation, we pay great attention to tone, because if the tone is wrong, the meaning of the whole sentence may be wrong. I suggest that you first read each word accurately, then practice speaking faster, and pay attention to the special rules of the tone of some words. Once you learn pinyin well, you can read all the Chinese characters in pinyin. After you can read it, you can try to read some short passages, mark out the words that you can't read or don't know, and look up their meaning and pronunciation on the Internet. If you want to learn how to write Chinese characters, I suggest you buy a calligraphy post and start with the most basic strokes. On the basis of learning to read and write Chinese characters, you can do some composition exercises to help you better use Chinese.

19 tháng 4 năm 2020

Yeah, definitely the tones will be applied in the real conversation, rather than just in the individual words. Just like English, it may sounds different when u pronounce it individually or put it into sentences. So for the beginners, i recommend you read the tones in individual words correct first, then try to practice the whole sentence. Good luck!

18 tháng 4 năm 2020

Hi.I found this in the net.

2. A 3rd tone becomes a ‘low tone’ if followed by any other tone

Again, this is confusing at first. It’s probably easier to approach these two rules as “if a third tone isn’t on its own, it changes”. This ‘low tone’ is a low-pitch tone that falls slightly.

As symbols:

[3] [!3] ⇒ [low tone] [!3]

(here the ! represents ‘not’)

Examples:

考试 (exam): kǎoshì ⇒ kao shì

语言 (language): yǔyán ⇒ yu yán

马车 (cart): mǎchē ⇒ ma chē

(In these examples, italics is used to represent ‘low tone’)

Does this means 3rd tone will become nornal tone?

19 tháng 4 năm 2020

Adam

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